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    <description>What does it actually take to think wisely? On Wisdom digs into the empirical science of wisdom, judgment, and decision-making, and what it means for how we live. Igor Grossmann runs the Wisdom &amp; Culture Lab at the University of Waterloo. Charles Cassidy runs the Evidence-Based Wisdom project in London. Each episode pairs freewheeling conversation with guest spots from leading behavioural scientists working on reasoning, wellbeing, culture, and society. Past guests include Adam Grant, Jonathan Haidt, Paul Bloom, Shannon Vallor, Lisa Barrett, David Dunning, Mara Mather, Tom Gilovich, Laura Carstensen, Oliver Burkeman, Simine Vazire, Dacher Keltner, and more. This autumn: a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011, featuring fifteen scholars on narrative, metacognition, measurement, training, and the neuroscience of wise decisions.</description>
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  <title>73: Special Series Episode 5: Wisdom Frontiers</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Can wisdom live beyond the individual, in the organizations we build, and the technologies we create? In the final episode of our special series, Dilip Jeste, Barry Schwartz, and Justin Brienza join Igor and Charles to explore the frontiers of wisdom research, from neuroscience to the design of wiser institutions. Dilip takes us inside the brain systems involved in empathy, emotion regulation, and perspective-taking, while explaining why measuring wisdom remains such a challenge. Barry turns to the organizations we spend our lives in, revealing how even well-intentioned people can make poor judgments when the culture around them gets in the way, and why better decisions depend on creating environments where people can learn from their mistakes. Justin asks how we might build wisdom into institutions themselves, from red-teaming and premortems to incentives that encourage dissent, stewardship, and collective responsibility. The series arrives at one final question: if we can build machines that are increasingly intelligent, what would it mean to make them wise?</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Episode 5: Wisdom Frontiers (with Dilip Jeste, Barry Schwartz, and Justin Brienza)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can wisdom live beyond the individual, in the organizations we build, and the technologies we create? In the final episode of our special series, Dilip Jeste, Barry Schwartz, and Justin Brienza join Igor and Charles to explore the frontiers of wisdom research, from neuroscience to the design of wiser institutions. Dilip takes us inside the brain systems involved in empathy, emotion regulation, and perspective-taking, while explaining why measuring wisdom remains such a challenge. Barry turns to the organizations we spend our lives in, revealing how even well-intentioned people can make poor judgments when the culture around them gets in the way, and why better decisions depend on creating environments where people can learn from their mistakes. Justin asks how we might build wisdom into institutions themselves, from red-teaming and premortems to incentives that encourage dissent, stewardship, and collective responsibility. The series arrives at one final question: if we can build machines that are increasingly intelligent, what would it mean to make them wise?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Barry Schwartz, Dilip Jeste, and Justin Brienza.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 5: Wisdom Frontiers (with Dilip Jeste, Barry Schwartz, and Justin Brienza)</strong></p>

<p>Can wisdom live beyond the individual, in the organizations we build, and the technologies we create? In the final episode of our special series, Dilip Jeste, Barry Schwartz, and Justin Brienza join Igor and Charles to explore the frontiers of wisdom research, from neuroscience to the design of wiser institutions. Dilip takes us inside the brain systems involved in empathy, emotion regulation, and perspective-taking, while explaining why measuring wisdom remains such a challenge. Barry turns to the organizations we spend our lives in, revealing how even well-intentioned people can make poor judgments when the culture around them gets in the way, and why better decisions depend on creating environments where people can learn from their mistakes. Justin asks how we might build wisdom into institutions themselves, from red-teaming and premortems to incentives that encourage dissent, stewardship, and collective responsibility. The series arrives at one final question: if we can build machines that are increasingly intelligent, what would it mean to make them wise?</p><p>Special Guests: Barry Schwartz, Dilip Jeste, and Justin Brienza.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Barry Schwartz: Our loss of wisdom | TED Talk" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_our_loss_of_wisdom">Barry Schwartz: Our loss of wisdom | TED Talk
</a></li><li><a title="Wisdom in action: A call to bridge fields in psychology (and beyond) to solve complex world problems | American Psychologist. Advance online publication - Glück, J., &amp; Brienza, J. P. (2025)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1037/amp0001593">Wisdom in action: A call to bridge fields in psychology (and beyond) to solve complex world problems | American Psychologist. Advance online publication - Glück, J., &amp; Brienza, J. P. (2025)
</a></li><li><a title="Transforming artificial intelligence into artificial wisdom | Nat. Mental Health 4, 886–897 - Jeste, D.V., Paulus, M.P., Alexopoulos, G.S. et al. (2026)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1038/s44220-026-00640-6">Transforming artificial intelligence into artificial wisdom | Nat. Mental Health 4, 886–897 - Jeste, D.V., Paulus, M.P., Alexopoulos, G.S. et al. (2026)
</a></li><li><a title="Imagining and building wise machines: The centrality of AI metacognition | Trends in Cognitive Sciences - Johnson, S. G., Karimi, A. H., Bengio, Y., Chater, N., Gerstenberg, T., Larson, K., ... &amp; Grossmann, I. (2026)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tics.2026.01.002">Imagining and building wise machines: The centrality of AI metacognition | Trends in Cognitive Sciences - Johnson, S. G., Karimi, A. H., Bengio, Y., Chater, N., Gerstenberg, T., Larson, K., ... &amp; Grossmann, I. (2026)
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    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 5: Wisdom Frontiers (with Dilip Jeste, Barry Schwartz, and Justin Brienza)</strong></p>

<p>Can wisdom live beyond the individual, in the organizations we build, and the technologies we create? In the final episode of our special series, Dilip Jeste, Barry Schwartz, and Justin Brienza join Igor and Charles to explore the frontiers of wisdom research, from neuroscience to the design of wiser institutions. Dilip takes us inside the brain systems involved in empathy, emotion regulation, and perspective-taking, while explaining why measuring wisdom remains such a challenge. Barry turns to the organizations we spend our lives in, revealing how even well-intentioned people can make poor judgments when the culture around them gets in the way, and why better decisions depend on creating environments where people can learn from their mistakes. Justin asks how we might build wisdom into institutions themselves, from red-teaming and premortems to incentives that encourage dissent, stewardship, and collective responsibility. The series arrives at one final question: if we can build machines that are increasingly intelligent, what would it mean to make them wise?</p><p>Special Guests: Barry Schwartz, Dilip Jeste, and Justin Brienza.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Barry Schwartz: Our loss of wisdom | TED Talk" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_our_loss_of_wisdom">Barry Schwartz: Our loss of wisdom | TED Talk
</a></li><li><a title="Wisdom in action: A call to bridge fields in psychology (and beyond) to solve complex world problems | American Psychologist. Advance online publication - Glück, J., &amp; Brienza, J. P. (2025)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1037/amp0001593">Wisdom in action: A call to bridge fields in psychology (and beyond) to solve complex world problems | American Psychologist. Advance online publication - Glück, J., &amp; Brienza, J. P. (2025)
</a></li><li><a title="Transforming artificial intelligence into artificial wisdom | Nat. Mental Health 4, 886–897 - Jeste, D.V., Paulus, M.P., Alexopoulos, G.S. et al. (2026)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1038/s44220-026-00640-6">Transforming artificial intelligence into artificial wisdom | Nat. Mental Health 4, 886–897 - Jeste, D.V., Paulus, M.P., Alexopoulos, G.S. et al. (2026)
</a></li><li><a title="Imagining and building wise machines: The centrality of AI metacognition | Trends in Cognitive Sciences - Johnson, S. G., Karimi, A. H., Bengio, Y., Chater, N., Gerstenberg, T., Larson, K., ... &amp; Grossmann, I. (2026)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tics.2026.01.002">Imagining and building wise machines: The centrality of AI metacognition | Trends in Cognitive Sciences - Johnson, S. G., Karimi, A. H., Bengio, Y., Chater, N., Gerstenberg, T., Larson, K., ... &amp; Grossmann, I. (2026)
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  <title>72: Special Series Episode 4: Interventions and Training</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>_Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011._

**Episode 4: Interventions and Training (with Judith Glück, Ethan Kross, and Kristján Kristjánsson)**

Can we actually learn to be wiser? Judith Glück, Ethan Kross, and Kristján Kristjánsson join Igor and Charles to explore what it takes to develop better judgment, and why getting older or going through difficult experiences doesn't necessarily make us wiser. Judith explains why even people with the right knowledge and reasoning skills can struggle to use them when emotions take over, Ethan reveals how stepping back from our own problems can help us see them in a new light, and Kristján explores the ancient idea of practical wisdom, why it matters for moral development, and how it might be cultivated. Igor and Charles reflect on why experience alone isn't enough, and what it takes to turn difficult situations into opportunities for wiser judgment. But can we take what we know about individual wisdom and use it to build wiser organizations and societies?</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Episode 4: Interventions and Training (with Judith Glück, Ethan Kross, and Kristján Kristjánsson)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can we actually learn to be wiser? Judith Glück, Ethan Kross, and Kristján Kristjánsson join Igor and Charles to explore what it takes to develop better judgment, and why getting older or going through difficult experiences doesn't necessarily make us wiser. Judith explains why even people with the right knowledge and reasoning skills can struggle to use them when emotions take over, Ethan reveals how stepping back from our own problems can help us see them in a new light, and Kristján explores the ancient idea of practical wisdom, why it matters for moral development, and how it might be cultivated. Igor and Charles reflect on why experience alone isn't enough, and what it takes to turn difficult situations into opportunities for wiser judgment. But can we take what we know about individual wisdom and use it to build wiser organizations and societies?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Ethan Kross, Judith Glück, and Kristján Kristjánsson.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 4: Interventions and Training (with Judith Glück, Ethan Kross, and Kristján Kristjánsson)</strong></p>

<p>Can we actually learn to be wiser? Judith Glück, Ethan Kross, and Kristján Kristjánsson join Igor and Charles to explore what it takes to develop better judgment, and why getting older or going through difficult experiences doesn't necessarily make us wiser. Judith explains why even people with the right knowledge and reasoning skills can struggle to use them when emotions take over, Ethan reveals how stepping back from our own problems can help us see them in a new light, and Kristján explores the ancient idea of practical wisdom, why it matters for moral development, and how it might be cultivated. Igor and Charles reflect on why experience alone isn't enough, and what it takes to turn difficult situations into opportunities for wiser judgment. But can we take what we know about individual wisdom and use it to build wiser organizations and societies?</p><p>Special Guests: Ethan Kross, Judith Glück, and Kristján Kristjánsson.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate " rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c5vh3_v2">Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate 
</a></li><li><a title="The Wisdom Researchers and the Elephant: An Integrative Model of Wise Behavior - Judith Glück and Nic M. Weststrate (2022)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1177/10888683221094650">The Wisdom Researchers and the Elephant: An Integrative Model of Wise Behavior - Judith Glück and Nic M. Weststrate (2022)
</a></li><li><a title="Self-Distancing: Theory, Research, and Current Directions - E. Kross , O. Ayduk (2017)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1016/bs.aesp.2016.10.002">Self-Distancing: Theory, Research, and Current Directions - E. Kross , O. Ayduk (2017)
</a></li><li><a title="Exploring Solomon’s Paradox: Self-Distancing Eliminates the Self-Other Asymmetry in Wise Reasoning About Close Relationships in Younger and Older Adults - Igor Grossmann and Ethan Kross (2014)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1177/0956797614535400">Exploring Solomon’s Paradox: Self-Distancing Eliminates the Self-Other Asymmetry in Wise Reasoning About Close Relationships in Younger and Older Adults - Igor Grossmann and Ethan Kross (2014)
</a></li><li><a title="Phronesis (Practical Wisdom) as a Key to Moral Decision-Making: Comparing Two Models - Maria Silvia Vaccarezza, Michel Croce, Kristján Kristjánsson (2023) " rel="nofollow" href="https://www.jubileecentre.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/PhronesisPractical-Wisdom3_03.pdf">Phronesis (Practical Wisdom) as a Key to Moral Decision-Making: Comparing Two Models - Maria Silvia Vaccarezza, Michel Croce, Kristján Kristjánsson (2023) 
</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 4: Interventions and Training (with Judith Glück, Ethan Kross, and Kristján Kristjánsson)</strong></p>

<p>Can we actually learn to be wiser? Judith Glück, Ethan Kross, and Kristján Kristjánsson join Igor and Charles to explore what it takes to develop better judgment, and why getting older or going through difficult experiences doesn't necessarily make us wiser. Judith explains why even people with the right knowledge and reasoning skills can struggle to use them when emotions take over, Ethan reveals how stepping back from our own problems can help us see them in a new light, and Kristján explores the ancient idea of practical wisdom, why it matters for moral development, and how it might be cultivated. Igor and Charles reflect on why experience alone isn't enough, and what it takes to turn difficult situations into opportunities for wiser judgment. But can we take what we know about individual wisdom and use it to build wiser organizations and societies?</p><p>Special Guests: Ethan Kross, Judith Glück, and Kristján Kristjánsson.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate " rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c5vh3_v2">Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate 
</a></li><li><a title="The Wisdom Researchers and the Elephant: An Integrative Model of Wise Behavior - Judith Glück and Nic M. Weststrate (2022)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1177/10888683221094650">The Wisdom Researchers and the Elephant: An Integrative Model of Wise Behavior - Judith Glück and Nic M. Weststrate (2022)
</a></li><li><a title="Self-Distancing: Theory, Research, and Current Directions - E. Kross , O. Ayduk (2017)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1016/bs.aesp.2016.10.002">Self-Distancing: Theory, Research, and Current Directions - E. Kross , O. Ayduk (2017)
</a></li><li><a title="Exploring Solomon’s Paradox: Self-Distancing Eliminates the Self-Other Asymmetry in Wise Reasoning About Close Relationships in Younger and Older Adults - Igor Grossmann and Ethan Kross (2014)" rel="nofollow" href="https://doi.org/10.1177/0956797614535400">Exploring Solomon’s Paradox: Self-Distancing Eliminates the Self-Other Asymmetry in Wise Reasoning About Close Relationships in Younger and Older Adults - Igor Grossmann and Ethan Kross (2014)
</a></li><li><a title="Phronesis (Practical Wisdom) as a Key to Moral Decision-Making: Comparing Two Models - Maria Silvia Vaccarezza, Michel Croce, Kristján Kristjánsson (2023) " rel="nofollow" href="https://www.jubileecentre.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/PhronesisPractical-Wisdom3_03.pdf">Phronesis (Practical Wisdom) as a Key to Moral Decision-Making: Comparing Two Models - Maria Silvia Vaccarezza, Michel Croce, Kristján Kristjánsson (2023) 
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>71: Special Series Episode 3: Measuring Wisdom</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Episode 3: Measuring Wisdom (with Judith Glück, Monika Ardelt, and Eranda Jayawickreme)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can we actually measure wisdom, or are we just measuring how wise people think they are? Judith Glück, Monika Ardelt, and Eranda Jayawickreme join Igor and Charles to explore what happens when we try to turn wisdom into something we can quantify. Judith reveals the surprising differences between questionnaires, performance tests, and assessments of people in real situations, Monika makes the case that wisdom involves a stable quality of character built around reflection, cognition and compassion, and Eranda asks whether we might be better off thinking of traits as patterns of behaviour that change from one situation to another. Along the way, Igor and Charles confront a fundamental question about what a wisdom score is actually telling us, and discover that the answer may be less about choosing between traits and states than understanding how they fit together. But if wisdom is a pattern of states, can we change that pattern?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Eranda Jayawickreme, Judith Glück, and Monika Ardelt.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 3: Measuring Wisdom (with Judith Glück, Monika Ardelt, and Eranda Jayawickreme)</strong></p>

<p>Can we actually measure wisdom, or are we just measuring how wise people think they are? Judith Glück, Monika Ardelt, and Eranda Jayawickreme join Igor and Charles to explore what happens when we try to turn wisdom into something we can quantify. Judith reveals the surprising differences between questionnaires, performance tests, and assessments of people in real situations, Monika makes the case that wisdom involves a stable quality of character built around reflection, cognition and compassion, and Eranda asks whether we might be better off thinking of traits as patterns of behaviour that change from one situation to another. Along the way, Igor and Charles confront a fundamental question about what a wisdom score is actually telling us, and discover that the answer may be less about choosing between traits and states than understanding how they fit together. But if wisdom is a pattern of states, can we change that pattern?</p><p>Special Guests: Eranda Jayawickreme, Judith Glück, and Monika Ardelt.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate " rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c5vh3_v2">Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate 
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 3: Measuring Wisdom (with Judith Glück, Monika Ardelt, and Eranda Jayawickreme)</strong></p>

<p>Can we actually measure wisdom, or are we just measuring how wise people think they are? Judith Glück, Monika Ardelt, and Eranda Jayawickreme join Igor and Charles to explore what happens when we try to turn wisdom into something we can quantify. Judith reveals the surprising differences between questionnaires, performance tests, and assessments of people in real situations, Monika makes the case that wisdom involves a stable quality of character built around reflection, cognition and compassion, and Eranda asks whether we might be better off thinking of traits as patterns of behaviour that change from one situation to another. Along the way, Igor and Charles confront a fundamental question about what a wisdom score is actually telling us, and discover that the answer may be less about choosing between traits and states than understanding how they fit together. But if wisdom is a pattern of states, can we change that pattern?</p><p>Special Guests: Eranda Jayawickreme, Judith Glück, and Monika Ardelt.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate " rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c5vh3_v2">Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate 
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>70: Special Series Episode 2: Metacognition and Judgment </title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2026 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</author>
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  <itunes:episode>70</itunes:episode>
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  <itunes:subtitle>_Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011._

**Episode 2: Metacognition and Judgment  (with Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello)**

Is thinking _harder_ always the key to making better decisions, or can it sometimes make things worse? Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello join Igor and Charles to explore what happens when we start thinking about our own thinking. Gord reveals why intelligence and rationality aren't the same thing, and why simply thinking more isn't necessarily the answer, Steve takes us inside the machinery that helps us monitor and regulate our decisions, and Thomas explores what intellectual humility is, how we might recognize it, and why being confident about our own competence can be so misleading. Along the way, Igor and Charles uncover a three-part cycle at the heart of wise judgment: seeking input, resolving conflicts, and monitoring what happens next. So what does it take to become better at knowing what we know, and what we don't?
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  <itunes:duration>39:10</itunes:duration>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Episode 2: Metacognition and Judgment  (with Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is thinking &lt;em&gt;harder&lt;/em&gt; always the key to making better decisions, or can it sometimes make things worse? Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello join Igor and Charles to explore what happens when we start thinking about our own thinking. Gord reveals why intelligence and rationality aren't the same thing, and why simply thinking more isn't necessarily the answer, Steve takes us inside the machinery that helps us monitor and regulate our decisions, and Thomas explores what intellectual humility is, how we might recognize it, and why being confident about our own competence can be so misleading. Along the way, Igor and Charles uncover a three-part cycle at the heart of wise judgment: seeking input, resolving conflicts, and monitoring what happens next. So what does it take to become better at knowing what we know, and what we don't?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 2: Metacognition and Judgment  (with Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello)</strong></p>

<p>Is thinking <em>harder</em> always the key to making better decisions, or can it sometimes make things worse? Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello join Igor and Charles to explore what happens when we start thinking about our own thinking. Gord reveals why intelligence and rationality aren't the same thing, and why simply thinking more isn't necessarily the answer, Steve takes us inside the machinery that helps us monitor and regulate our decisions, and Thomas explores what intellectual humility is, how we might recognize it, and why being confident about our own competence can be so misleading. Along the way, Igor and Charles uncover a three-part cycle at the heart of wise judgment: seeking input, resolving conflicts, and monitoring what happens next. So what does it take to become better at knowing what we know, and what we don't?</p><p>Special Guests: Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate " rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c5vh3_v2">Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate 
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 2: Metacognition and Judgment  (with Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello)</strong></p>

<p>Is thinking <em>harder</em> always the key to making better decisions, or can it sometimes make things worse? Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello join Igor and Charles to explore what happens when we start thinking about our own thinking. Gord reveals why intelligence and rationality aren't the same thing, and why simply thinking more isn't necessarily the answer, Steve takes us inside the machinery that helps us monitor and regulate our decisions, and Thomas explores what intellectual humility is, how we might recognize it, and why being confident about our own competence can be so misleading. Along the way, Igor and Charles uncover a three-part cycle at the heart of wise judgment: seeking input, resolving conflicts, and monitoring what happens next. So what does it take to become better at knowing what we know, and what we don't?</p><p>Special Guests: Gord Pennycook, Steve Fleming, and Thomas Costello.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate " rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c5vh3_v2">Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate 
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>69: Special Series Episode 1: Exemplars and Narratives</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</author>
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  <itunes:episode>69</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Special Series Episode 1: Exemplars and Narratives</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>_Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011._

**Episode 1: Exemplars and Narratives (with Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul)**

When we face life challenges, where do our ideas about wise judgment, or even wisdom writ large come from, and how do they shape the way we work through such challenges and live thereafter? Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul join Igor and Charles to explore the stories, proverbs, and exemplars we inherit, and what happens when they don't quite fit the situation in front of us. Cristine reveals why the ideas that stick with us aren't necessarily the ones that are true, Dan explores how the stories we tell about ourselves can help us navigate uncertainty (or trap us in the wrong story), and Laurie asks who (or what) is doing the choosing, if we can’t know in advance how a life-changing decision will transform us?</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>41:07</itunes:duration>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Episode 1: Exemplars and Narratives (with Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When we face life challenges, where do our ideas about wise judgment, or even wisdom writ large come from, and how do they shape the way we work through such challenges and live thereafter? Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul join Igor and Charles to explore the stories, proverbs, and exemplars we inherit, and what happens when they don't quite fit the situation in front of us. Cristine reveals why the ideas that stick with us aren't necessarily the ones that are true, Dan explores how the stories we tell about ourselves can help us navigate uncertainty (or trap us in the wrong story), and Laurie asks who (or what) is doing the choosing, if we can’t know in advance how a life-changing decision will transform us?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 1: Exemplars and Narratives (with Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul)</strong></p>

<p>When we face life challenges, where do our ideas about wise judgment, or even wisdom writ large come from, and how do they shape the way we work through such challenges and live thereafter? Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul join Igor and Charles to explore the stories, proverbs, and exemplars we inherit, and what happens when they don't quite fit the situation in front of us. Cristine reveals why the ideas that stick with us aren't necessarily the ones that are true, Dan explores how the stories we tell about ourselves can help us navigate uncertainty (or trap us in the wrong story), and Laurie asks who (or what) is doing the choosing, if we can’t know in advance how a life-changing decision will transform us?</p><p>Special Guests: Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate " rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c5vh3_v2">Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate 
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011.</em></p>

<p><strong>Episode 1: Exemplars and Narratives (with Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul)</strong></p>

<p>When we face life challenges, where do our ideas about wise judgment, or even wisdom writ large come from, and how do they shape the way we work through such challenges and live thereafter? Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul join Igor and Charles to explore the stories, proverbs, and exemplars we inherit, and what happens when they don't quite fit the situation in front of us. Cristine reveals why the ideas that stick with us aren't necessarily the ones that are true, Dan explores how the stories we tell about ourselves can help us navigate uncertainty (or trap us in the wrong story), and Laurie asks who (or what) is doing the choosing, if we can’t know in advance how a life-changing decision will transform us?</p><p>Special Guests: Cristine Legare, Dan McAdams, and L.A. Paul.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate " rel="nofollow" href="https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c5vh3_v2">Navigating the Unknown: The Sociocultural and Metacognitive Architecture of Wisdom (accepted) | Annual Review of Psychology, Volume 78 - Igor Grossmann and Nic M. Weststrate 
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>68: Special Series Trailer: 5 Episodes on the Science of Wisdom</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</author>
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  <itunes:episode>68</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Special Series Trailer: 5 Episodes on the Science of Wisdom</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>From 28th September
Hosted by Igor Grossmann and Charles Cassidy
01 - EXEMPLARS AND NARRATIVES
Cristine Legare - Dan McAdams - Laurie Paul
02 - METACOGNITION AND JUDGMENT
Gordon Pennycook - Tom Costello - Steven Fleming
03 - MEASURING WISDOM
Judith Glück - Monika Ardelt - Eranda Jayawickreme
04 - INTERVENTIONS AND TRAINING
Judith Glück - Ethan Kross - Kristján Kristjánsson
05 - WISDOM FRONTIERS
Dilip Jeste - Barry Schwartz - Justin Brienza
</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>2:04</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;From 28th September&lt;br&gt;
Hosted by Igor Grossmann and Charles Cassidy&lt;br&gt;
01 - EXEMPLARS AND NARRATIVES&lt;br&gt;
Cristine Legare - Dan McAdams - Laurie Paul&lt;br&gt;
02 - METACOGNITION AND JUDGMENT&lt;br&gt;
Gordon Pennycook - Tom Costello - Steven Fleming&lt;br&gt;
03 - MEASURING WISDOM&lt;br&gt;
Judith Glück - Monika Ardelt - Eranda Jayawickreme&lt;br&gt;
04 - INTERVENTIONS AND TRAINING&lt;br&gt;
Judith Glück - Ethan Kross - Kristján Kristjánsson&lt;br&gt;
05 - WISDOM FRONTIERS&lt;br&gt;
Dilip Jeste - Barry Schwartz - Justin Brienza&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p>From 28th September<br>
Hosted by Igor Grossmann and Charles Cassidy<br>
01 - EXEMPLARS AND NARRATIVES<br>
Cristine Legare - Dan McAdams - Laurie Paul<br>
02 - METACOGNITION AND JUDGMENT<br>
Gordon Pennycook - Tom Costello - Steven Fleming<br>
03 - MEASURING WISDOM<br>
Judith Glück - Monika Ardelt - Eranda Jayawickreme<br>
04 - INTERVENTIONS AND TRAINING<br>
Judith Glück - Ethan Kross - Kristján Kristjánsson<br>
05 - WISDOM FRONTIERS<br>
Dilip Jeste - Barry Schwartz - Justin Brienza</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>From 28th September<br>
Hosted by Igor Grossmann and Charles Cassidy<br>
01 - EXEMPLARS AND NARRATIVES<br>
Cristine Legare - Dan McAdams - Laurie Paul<br>
02 - METACOGNITION AND JUDGMENT<br>
Gordon Pennycook - Tom Costello - Steven Fleming<br>
03 - MEASURING WISDOM<br>
Judith Glück - Monika Ardelt - Eranda Jayawickreme<br>
04 - INTERVENTIONS AND TRAINING<br>
Judith Glück - Ethan Kross - Kristján Kristjánsson<br>
05 - WISDOM FRONTIERS<br>
Dilip Jeste - Barry Schwartz - Justin Brienza</p>]]>
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  <title>45: Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz) - Rebroadcast</title>
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  <author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</author>
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  <itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz) - Rebroadcast</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>(First Broadcast - 28th December 2018)

Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>59:20</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;(First Broadcast - 28th December 2018)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p>(First Broadcast - 28th December 2018)</p>

<p>Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. </p><p>Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Original Broadcast: Episode 11 - Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz)" rel="nofollow" href="https://onwisdompodcast.fireside.fm/11">Original Broadcast: Episode 11 - Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz)
</a></li><li><a title="Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_our_loss_of_wisdom">Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
</a></li><li><a title="Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_using_our_practical_wisdom">Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
</a></li><li><a title="The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_the_paradox_of_choice">The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)
</a></li><li><a title="Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz &amp; Kenneth Sharpe" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Wisdom-Right-Way-Thing/dp/1594485437/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545991677&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Practical+Wisdom">Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz &amp; Kenneth Sharpe
</a></li><li><a title="Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Work-TED-Barry-Schwartz/dp/1471141810/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545991758&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Why+We+Work">Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)
</a></li><li><a title="The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paradox-Choice-Why-More-Less/dp/0060005696">The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)
</a></li><li><a title="Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/opinion/sunday/rethinking-work.html">Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>(First Broadcast - 28th December 2018)</p>

<p>Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. </p><p>Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Original Broadcast: Episode 11 - Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz)" rel="nofollow" href="https://onwisdompodcast.fireside.fm/11">Original Broadcast: Episode 11 - Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz)
</a></li><li><a title="Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_our_loss_of_wisdom">Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
</a></li><li><a title="Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_using_our_practical_wisdom">Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
</a></li><li><a title="The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_the_paradox_of_choice">The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)
</a></li><li><a title="Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz &amp; Kenneth Sharpe" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Wisdom-Right-Way-Thing/dp/1594485437/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545991677&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Practical+Wisdom">Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz &amp; Kenneth Sharpe
</a></li><li><a title="Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Work-TED-Barry-Schwartz/dp/1471141810/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545991758&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Why+We+Work">Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)
</a></li><li><a title="The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paradox-Choice-Why-More-Less/dp/0060005696">The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)
</a></li><li><a title="Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/opinion/sunday/rethinking-work.html">Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)
</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>42: Reflections on Wisdom in the World after Covid</title>
  <link>https://www.onwisdompodcast.com/42</link>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 20:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</author>
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  <itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Reflections on Wisdom in the World after Covid</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>On Wisdom dissects the latest research emerging from the field of wisdom research and discusses what it might mean for each of us and for society in terms of reasoning and living more wisely in the 21st Century.
</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>37:36</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;h3&gt;Which kind of wisdom will people need to master to overcome major negative societal and/or psychological changes after the pandemic?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the last episode of the World After Covid miniseries, Igor and Charles share and discuss responses from 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the &lt;a href="https://worldaftercovid.info/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;World After Covid&lt;/a&gt; project. Four final responses are selected, covering themes of &lt;strong&gt;big picture focus on what's important, shared humanity, long-term orientation, and political structural change&lt;/strong&gt; in the midst of the pandemic. Igor reflects on how the immediate context can dramatically influence even experts' forecasts, and Charles is forced to question his cherished belief that people are ultimately good.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Featuring:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.swarthmore.edu/profile/barry-schwartz" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Barry Schwartz&lt;/a&gt;, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Swarthmore College and a visiting Professor at the Haas School of Business at Berkeley&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://sociology.yale.edu/people/nicholas-christakis" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Nicholas Christakis&lt;/a&gt;, Sterling Professor of Social and Natural Science at Yale University&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anand-menon-6a820a7/?originalSubdomain=uk" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Anand Menon&lt;/a&gt;, Professor of European Politics and Foreign Affairs at King’s College London&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://mm.polyu.edu.hk/people/academic-staff/prof-michael-harris-bond/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Michael Bond&lt;/a&gt;, Cross-cultural social psychologist with focus on locating Chinese interpersonal processes in a multi-cultural space&lt;/p&gt;</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Barry Schwartz, Nicholas Christakis, Anand Menon, Michael Bond, solidarity, improved communication, follow rules, control, agency, intellectual humility, patience, social awareness, acknowledge uncertainty,  perspective-taking, political cooperation, bipartisanship, self-distancing, compassion, sympathy,  connectedness, social support, long-term orientation, care for elders, science interest, work-life balance,  critical thinking, optimism, hope, nature, resilience, gratitude, shared humanity, structural change,, political engagement, togetherness, trust, prosocial behavior, autobiographical memory, irrationality, intimate relation, despair, pessimism, career disruptions, educational inequality, loneliness, economic hardship, authoritarianism, social inequality, mistrust, political conflict, wac2020, worldaftercovid, cultural change, forecast, coronavirus, covid-19, predictions, wisdom, society</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<h3>Which kind of wisdom will people need to master to overcome major negative societal and/or psychological changes after the pandemic?</h3>

<p>In the last episode of the World After Covid miniseries, Igor and Charles share and discuss responses from 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the <a href="https://worldaftercovid.info/" rel="nofollow noopener">World After Covid</a> project. Four final responses are selected, covering themes of <strong>big picture focus on what's important, shared humanity, long-term orientation, and political structural change</strong> in the midst of the pandemic. Igor reflects on how the immediate context can dramatically influence even experts' forecasts, and Charles is forced to question his cherished belief that people are ultimately good.</p>

<p><strong>Featuring:</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.swarthmore.edu/profile/barry-schwartz" rel="nofollow noopener">Barry Schwartz</a>, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Swarthmore College and a visiting Professor at the Haas School of Business at Berkeley<br>
<a href="https://sociology.yale.edu/people/nicholas-christakis" rel="nofollow noopener">Nicholas Christakis</a>, Sterling Professor of Social and Natural Science at Yale University<br>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anand-menon-6a820a7/?originalSubdomain=uk" rel="nofollow noopener">Anand Menon</a>, Professor of European Politics and Foreign Affairs at King’s College London<br>
<a href="https://mm.polyu.edu.hk/people/academic-staff/prof-michael-harris-bond/" rel="nofollow noopener">Michael Bond</a>, Cross-cultural social psychologist with focus on locating Chinese interpersonal processes in a multi-cultural space</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="World After Covid site" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/">World After Covid site
</a></li><li><a title="Igor Grossmann&#39;s homepage " rel="nofollow" href="https://igorgrossmann.com/">Igor Grossmann's homepage 
</a> &mdash; interactive visualizations and analysis on the World After Covid project
</li><li><a title="Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)" rel="nofollow" href="https://psyarxiv.com/yma8f/">Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)
</a></li><li><a title="Everyone Was Wrong on the Pandemic’s Societal Impact: Foreign Policy - Varnum, Hutcherson, Grossmann (2021)" rel="nofollow" href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/03/18/pandemic-social-science-predictions-wrong/">Everyone Was Wrong on the Pandemic’s Societal Impact: Foreign Policy - Varnum, Hutcherson, Grossmann (2021)
</a></li><li><a title="Estimating societal effects of COVID-19 - Hutcherson, Sharpinsky, Varnum, Rotella, Wormley, Tay, Grossmann (2021, preprint)" rel="nofollow" href="https://psyarxiv.com/g8f9s/">Estimating societal effects of COVID-19 - Hutcherson, Sharpinsky, Varnum, Rotella, Wormley, Tay, Grossmann (2021, preprint)
</a></li><li><a title="How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)" rel="nofollow" href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_life_could_get_better_or_worse_after_covid">How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)
</a></li><li><a title="Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)" rel="nofollow" href="https://theconversation.com/words-of-wisdom-4-tips-from-experts-on-how-to-endure-until-the-covid-19-pandemic-ends-152162">Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)
</a></li><li><a title="Barry Schwartz Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/barry-schwartz/?timestamp=0">Barry Schwartz Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Nicholas Christakis Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/nicholas-christakis/?timestamp=0">Nicholas Christakis Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Anand Menon Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/anand-menon/?timestamp=0">Anand Menon Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Michael Bond Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/michael-bond/?timestamp=0">Michael Bond Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Which kind of wisdom will people need to master to overcome major negative societal and/or psychological changes after the pandemic?</h3>

<p>In the last episode of the World After Covid miniseries, Igor and Charles share and discuss responses from 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the <a href="https://worldaftercovid.info/" rel="nofollow noopener">World After Covid</a> project. Four final responses are selected, covering themes of <strong>big picture focus on what's important, shared humanity, long-term orientation, and political structural change</strong> in the midst of the pandemic. Igor reflects on how the immediate context can dramatically influence even experts' forecasts, and Charles is forced to question his cherished belief that people are ultimately good.</p>

<p><strong>Featuring:</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.swarthmore.edu/profile/barry-schwartz" rel="nofollow noopener">Barry Schwartz</a>, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Swarthmore College and a visiting Professor at the Haas School of Business at Berkeley<br>
<a href="https://sociology.yale.edu/people/nicholas-christakis" rel="nofollow noopener">Nicholas Christakis</a>, Sterling Professor of Social and Natural Science at Yale University<br>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anand-menon-6a820a7/?originalSubdomain=uk" rel="nofollow noopener">Anand Menon</a>, Professor of European Politics and Foreign Affairs at King’s College London<br>
<a href="https://mm.polyu.edu.hk/people/academic-staff/prof-michael-harris-bond/" rel="nofollow noopener">Michael Bond</a>, Cross-cultural social psychologist with focus on locating Chinese interpersonal processes in a multi-cultural space</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="World After Covid site" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/">World After Covid site
</a></li><li><a title="Igor Grossmann&#39;s homepage " rel="nofollow" href="https://igorgrossmann.com/">Igor Grossmann's homepage 
</a> &mdash; interactive visualizations and analysis on the World After Covid project
</li><li><a title="Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)" rel="nofollow" href="https://psyarxiv.com/yma8f/">Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)
</a></li><li><a title="Everyone Was Wrong on the Pandemic’s Societal Impact: Foreign Policy - Varnum, Hutcherson, Grossmann (2021)" rel="nofollow" href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/03/18/pandemic-social-science-predictions-wrong/">Everyone Was Wrong on the Pandemic’s Societal Impact: Foreign Policy - Varnum, Hutcherson, Grossmann (2021)
</a></li><li><a title="Estimating societal effects of COVID-19 - Hutcherson, Sharpinsky, Varnum, Rotella, Wormley, Tay, Grossmann (2021, preprint)" rel="nofollow" href="https://psyarxiv.com/g8f9s/">Estimating societal effects of COVID-19 - Hutcherson, Sharpinsky, Varnum, Rotella, Wormley, Tay, Grossmann (2021, preprint)
</a></li><li><a title="How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)" rel="nofollow" href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_life_could_get_better_or_worse_after_covid">How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)
</a></li><li><a title="Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)" rel="nofollow" href="https://theconversation.com/words-of-wisdom-4-tips-from-experts-on-how-to-endure-until-the-covid-19-pandemic-ends-152162">Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)
</a></li><li><a title="Barry Schwartz Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/barry-schwartz/?timestamp=0">Barry Schwartz Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Nicholas Christakis Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/nicholas-christakis/?timestamp=0">Nicholas Christakis Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Anand Menon Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/anand-menon/?timestamp=0">Anand Menon Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Michael Bond Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/michael-bond/?timestamp=0">Michael Bond Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>36: World After Covid series: Positive Consequences (Part II) - Political cooperation, Nature, Solidarity, and Prosocial behaviours</title>
  <link>https://www.onwisdompodcast.com/36</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/6e7bd116-2782-4422-a140-42f329164842/3a90d78f-5c17-4772-baac-e56404614891.mp3" length="26404749" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>World After Covid series: Positive Consequences (Part II) - Political cooperation, Nature, Solidarity, and Prosocial behaviours</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>On Wisdom dissects the latest research emerging from the field of wisdom research and discusses what it might mean for each of us and for society in terms of reasoning and living more wisely in the 21st Century.
</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>44:00</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://cdn.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/6/6e7bd116-2782-4422-a140-42f329164842/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>&lt;h3&gt;Which domain or aspect of social life will show the most significant positive societal and/or psychological change in response to the pandemic?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Igor and Charles share and discuss responses given to the question about positive change in response to the pandemic by 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the &lt;a href="https://worldaftercovid.info/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;World After Covid&lt;/a&gt; project. Each episode, four responses are selected. This time, the conversation covers themes of &lt;strong&gt;political cooperation, nature, solidarity, and prosocial behaviour&lt;/strong&gt; in the midst of the pandemic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Featuring:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Dagomar Degroot, Associate Professor of Environmental History at Georgetown University&lt;br&gt;
Shinobu Kitayama, Robert B. Zajonc Collegiate Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan&lt;br&gt;
Katie McLaughlin, John L. Loeb Associate Professor of the Social Sciences at Harvard University&lt;br&gt;
Barry Schwartz, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Swarthmore College&lt;/p&gt;</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Dagomar Degroot, Shinobu Kitayama, Katie McLaughlin, Barry Schwartz, solidarity, improved communication, follow rules, control, agency, intellectual humility, patience, social awareness, acknowledge uncertainty,  perspective-taking, political cooperation, bipartisanship, self-distancing, compassion, sympathy,  connectedness, social support, long-term orientation, care for elders, science interest, work-life balance,  critical thinking, optimism, hope, nature, resilience, gratitude, shared humanity, structural change,, political engagement, togetherness, trust, prosocial behavior, autobiographical memory, irrationality, intimate relation, despair, pessimism, career disruptions, educational inequality, loneliness, economic hardship, authoritarianism, social inequality, mistrust, political conflict, wac2020, worldaftercovid, cultural change, forecast, coronavirus, covid-19, predictions, wisdom, society</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Which domain or aspect of social life will show the most significant positive societal and/or psychological change in response to the pandemic?</h3>

<p>Igor and Charles share and discuss responses given to the question about positive change in response to the pandemic by 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the <a href="https://worldaftercovid.info/" rel="nofollow noopener">World After Covid</a> project. Each episode, four responses are selected. This time, the conversation covers themes of <strong>political cooperation, nature, solidarity, and prosocial behaviour</strong> in the midst of the pandemic.</p>

<p><strong>Featuring:</strong><br>
Dagomar Degroot, Associate Professor of Environmental History at Georgetown University<br>
Shinobu Kitayama, Robert B. Zajonc Collegiate Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan<br>
Katie McLaughlin, John L. Loeb Associate Professor of the Social Sciences at Harvard University<br>
Barry Schwartz, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Swarthmore College</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="World After Covid site" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/">World After Covid site
</a></li><li><a title="Igor Grossmann&#39;s homepage" rel="nofollow" href="https://igorgrossmann.com/">Igor Grossmann's homepage
</a> &mdash; interactive visualizations and analysis on the World After Covid project
</li><li><a title="Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)" rel="nofollow" href="https://psyarxiv.com/yma8f/">Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)
</a></li><li><a title="How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)" rel="nofollow" href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_life_could_get_better_or_worse_after_covid">How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)
</a></li><li><a title="Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)" rel="nofollow" href="https://theconversation.com/words-of-wisdom-4-tips-from-experts-on-how-to-endure-until-the-covid-19-pandemic-ends-152162">Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)
</a></li><li><a title="Dagomar Degroot Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/dagomar-degroot/?timestamp=0">Dagomar Degroot Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Shinobu Kitayama Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/shinobu-kitayama/?timestamp=0">Shinobu Kitayama Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Katie McLaughlin Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/katie-a-mclaughlin/?timestamp=0">Katie McLaughlin Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Barry Schwartz Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/barry-schwartz/?timestamp=0">Barry Schwartz Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li></ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Which domain or aspect of social life will show the most significant positive societal and/or psychological change in response to the pandemic?</h3>

<p>Igor and Charles share and discuss responses given to the question about positive change in response to the pandemic by 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the <a href="https://worldaftercovid.info/" rel="nofollow noopener">World After Covid</a> project. Each episode, four responses are selected. This time, the conversation covers themes of <strong>political cooperation, nature, solidarity, and prosocial behaviour</strong> in the midst of the pandemic.</p>

<p><strong>Featuring:</strong><br>
Dagomar Degroot, Associate Professor of Environmental History at Georgetown University<br>
Shinobu Kitayama, Robert B. Zajonc Collegiate Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan<br>
Katie McLaughlin, John L. Loeb Associate Professor of the Social Sciences at Harvard University<br>
Barry Schwartz, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Swarthmore College</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="World After Covid site" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/">World After Covid site
</a></li><li><a title="Igor Grossmann&#39;s homepage" rel="nofollow" href="https://igorgrossmann.com/">Igor Grossmann's homepage
</a> &mdash; interactive visualizations and analysis on the World After Covid project
</li><li><a title="Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)" rel="nofollow" href="https://psyarxiv.com/yma8f/">Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)
</a></li><li><a title="How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)" rel="nofollow" href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_life_could_get_better_or_worse_after_covid">How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)
</a></li><li><a title="Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)" rel="nofollow" href="https://theconversation.com/words-of-wisdom-4-tips-from-experts-on-how-to-endure-until-the-covid-19-pandemic-ends-152162">Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)
</a></li><li><a title="Dagomar Degroot Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/dagomar-degroot/?timestamp=0">Dagomar Degroot Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Shinobu Kitayama Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/shinobu-kitayama/?timestamp=0">Shinobu Kitayama Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Katie McLaughlin Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/katie-a-mclaughlin/?timestamp=0">Katie McLaughlin Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li><li><a title="Barry Schwartz Interview" rel="nofollow" href="https://worldaftercovid.info/interviews/barry-schwartz/?timestamp=0">Barry Schwartz Interview
</a> &mdash; full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 11: Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz)</title>
  <link>https://www.onwisdompodcast.com/11</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2018 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</author>
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  <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz)</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Charles Cassidy and Igor Grossmann</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. Welcome to Episode 11.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>58:40</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. Welcome to Episode 11.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
  <itunes:keywords>practical wisdom, work, rules, incentives, idea technology, feedback, freelancers, salary, money, virtue ethics, Aristotle, Barry Schwartz, character, wisdom, free-rider, workplace  </itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. Welcome to Episode 11.</p><p>Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_our_loss_of_wisdom">Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
</a></li><li><a title="Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_using_our_practical_wisdom">Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
</a></li><li><a title="The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice">The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)
</a></li><li><a title="Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz &amp; Kenneth Sharpe" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Wisdom-Right-Way-Thing/dp/1594485437/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545991677&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Practical+Wisdom">Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz &amp; Kenneth Sharpe
</a></li><li><a title="Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Work-TED-Barry-Schwartz/dp/1471141810/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545991758&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Why+We+Work">Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)
</a></li><li><a title="The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paradox-Choice-Why-More-Less/dp/0060005696">The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)
</a></li><li><a title="Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/opinion/sunday/rethinking-work.html">Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)
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    <![CDATA[<p>Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. Welcome to Episode 11.</p><p>Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_our_loss_of_wisdom">Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
</a></li><li><a title="Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_using_our_practical_wisdom">Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
</a></li><li><a title="The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice">The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)
</a></li><li><a title="Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz &amp; Kenneth Sharpe" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Wisdom-Right-Way-Thing/dp/1594485437/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545991677&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Practical+Wisdom">Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz &amp; Kenneth Sharpe
</a></li><li><a title="Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Work-TED-Barry-Schwartz/dp/1471141810/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545991758&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Why+We+Work">Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)
</a></li><li><a title="The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paradox-Choice-Why-More-Less/dp/0060005696">The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)
</a></li><li><a title="Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/opinion/sunday/rethinking-work.html">Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)
</a></li></ul>]]>
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